Hello Story Empire friends, Gwen with you today.
Last week John Howell and I began a conversation about different-than-you characters. You can read his post here. Today’s post is the second part of that conversation. When we embarked on this journey, I don’t think either of us realized the complexity of the topic. Sometimes we struggled with the response, because the answer was far more nuanced than we could faithfully capture.
Full disclosure, John and I are the senior members of Story Empire. In our pre-retirement years, each of us worked in administration within large organizations. I mention this because as writers we pull from our experience. We see the world, our neighbors, through our personal life journey. John’s path, and separately mine, may be very different from yours. So please, join the conversation. Each question below rightfully deserves pages of response, and we simply offer a few lines of reflection.
Let’s begin.

The first question is What emotions of a different-from-you character do you try to embrace, and what do you try to avoid?
John:
The emotions I try to embrace are sincere reactions to situations. We all have times of happiness, sadness, frustration, and stress. These situations in our writing bring up the need to capture the emotion not as I would want to react but to capture the feelings the way the different from me characters would. To do this well takes a degree of thinking about the situation from the character’s point of view. The reader will know immediately if the reactions to these situations are not sincere, so careful work is needed to ensure the reactions are genuine.
The emotions I try to avoid are the abnormal. Jealousy, cruelty, and narcissism come to mind immediately as ones that I don’t feel comfortable designing in a character. However, I have past exposure to people who have exhibited these emotions, and I suppose using them in a character would bring up memories I would sooner keep in the closet.
Gwen:
I believe most of our emotions are gender neutral, and much like John, I try to faithfully create characters who share universal emotions such as generosity, lightheartedness, kindness, or sadness, fear, loneliness. Can’t we all relate to those feelings? Conversely, I recoil at violence or cruelty in any form. I tiptoe around it in my writing. Sometimes the character manifests aspects of these traits, but these manifestations are not gender specific. All humans seem to be capable of hurting others, by word or by deed.

What attributes of a different-from-you gender do you try to capture when you write?
John:
I always want to capture attributes that are honest to the character’s makeup. I don’t think this desire to keep the character honest is different from characters of my gender. I would not, for instance, have a seemingly calm and stable character go off the deep end over something trivial. In the same vein, I would not have a different from me gender behave any differently from the profile I have created. I think all genders have the same attributes. We are all brave at times and scared at times. We help others and avoid others. We are gracious, and we are rude. There is no reason in my mind to assign particular attributes that are gender specific. I think doing so creates generalizations that could become stereotypical. Once writers start dealing with stereotypes, we deserve all the criticism that doing so can generate.
Gwen:
This is an interesting question, and I’m cautious about answering it. But I’ll share a story and then offer my response. Last fall, I was on a busy street in Prescott Valley, AZ. Suddenly an old van broke down in the middle of the intersection. I was several cars back but could see everything. Men jumped out of their pickups or cars and ran to help. Without even a conversation, they pushed that van across the intersection and off to a side street. Five minutes, that’s all it took. I was in awe.
What attributes do I try to capture in different-from-me characters? I try to identify what makes the person unique and particularly suited for the story. Given the nature of my thrillers, the male characters tend to think and act quickly. They are problem solvers. They must be. Whether they are physically strong or not, they are mentally astute. If I were to write a romance novel, it’s entirely possible the male characters would have different attributes. Does this mean that female characters don’t have these same attributes? No. As John expressed so well, we are all brave at times and scared at times. We help others and avoid others. We are gracious, and we are rude.

Who is your most admired different-from-you gender figure and why?
John:
I think my most admired different from me gender figure is Abigail Johnson, Chairman, and CEO, of Fidelity Investments. The reason I have this admiration is after joining the firm founded by her grandfather. She worked her way up to the CEO position. Before getting that job, she led an unsuccessful attempt to have her father removed from the CEO position due to disagreeing with his ideas about how the company should go forward. She has always been her own person and a forward thinker. She became CEO in 2014 and Chairman and CEO in 2016. She is the 6th most powerful woman in American business identified by Forbes magazine.
Gwen:
Several impressive people come to mind, but there’s one I’d like to mention here. Of recent, I have grown to respect Caitlyn Marie Jenner. Because of her relationship to the Kardashians and her prior Olympic achievements, she is regularly mentioned in social media. Even so, her responses to the interviewers are consistently thoughtful and respectful. I admire her courage to take the steps necessary to fully embrace the life she’s identified to be true for her. I also respect the fact that she’s not an advertisement for the process. She’s not trying to convert others. She is just being herself.

Thank you all for joining John and me today. We look forward to reading your perspective on the complicated topic of writing different-from-you gender characters. There is no one answer, no easy solution, but hopefully together we can help one another craft authentic characters.
Have a wonderful week and I’ll see you next month. Bye for now!
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Hi both, interesting answers to the questions.
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Thank you. It was an interesting journey to tackle these questions. 😊
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Great conversation here today John and Gwen. I’m with you two, I couldn’t write graphic violence because I can’t even watch it or read it. 🙂
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I can’t watch the news anymore. I’ll read headlines and rarely read a news article, but that’s about it. Thank you, Debby, for joining us in this discussion. 😊
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I’m with you on the news! 🙂
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I can understand that, Debby. There are scenes I don’t like to think about myself. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
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Thought-provoking and interesting. This has become a hugely relevant topic.
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It sure has, Jacqui. Thank you for stopping by. 😊
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A thoughtful response to the questions Gwen and John. Whilst I tend to write from experience and observations from my personal and work life, I do like to play a little fast and loose when writing fantasy as you can be as OTT as you want when you have mythical creatures to play with. xx♥
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So true about fantasy, Sally. Mythical creatures offer great possibilities. Thank you for stopping by and adding to the conversation. Much appreciated! ❤️
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I like your point of view, Sally. Playing fast and loose with mythical characters is a treat for sure.
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Thanks John..hugsx
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Good work. Keep it up
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Thank you, Aana. I’m pleased you appreciated the post. All the best to you!
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Thank you !!!!! 💟💟💟
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Thank you, Aana. It is aways nice to hear that we are on the right track. All the best to you.
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Thank you so much. 💜
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I take the same approach to creating characters with a different gender than mine. Although gender is a key part of anyone’s experience, people aren’t solely defined by their gender.
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So true, Liz. Thank you for putting it so succinctly. Even within one gender, the variance is profound. All the best. 😊
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You’re welcome, Gwen. In my first grad school lit class, the prof was adamently opposed to our (meaning writers’) way of thinking. It was a very tough semester.
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Well said, Liz.
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Thanks, John!
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When I write characters I imagine myself in their shoes and come up with what I believe to be the most likely character attributes. With so many independent women and men, my focus has been on not stereotyping but rather creating strong characters with strong convictions, whether right or wrong.
After reading about your broken down car, I can see both my son and daughter jumping out of the car and rushing to help. Me, I wouldn’t get there before the car was moved off the road.
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Thank you, Michele. The car situation happened so quickly that I barely had a chance to think about what needed to happen. The men had already acted. It’s sweet to think your daughter would have jumped out to help as well. Bravo! 😊
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I think not stereotyping but rather creating strong characters with strong convictions, is the way to go Michele. Thanks for sharing.
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This is an interesting topic. I can easily slip into a pov of a different gender unless it’s a love scene, then I’m lost. Great post, Gwen and John!
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Thank you, Priscilla. It’s been a thought-provoking journey to develop these two posts, and I’ve learned a lot through the process.
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Love scenes are the hardest. One has to be careful and not end up with a big mess of creepy. Thanks for your comment, Pricilla.
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A fantastic post–and truly eye-opening. There are so many angles to writing that may get overlooked by the one doing the writing. This post is a wonderful reminder/tool. Thanks to you both, Gwen and John.
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Thank you, Beem. I learned a lot through writing these posts, and hopefully, my characters will be enriched because of that. 😊
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Thank you so much, Beem. Trying to keep everything in mind is a tough job for sure.
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Very interesting questions and answers, John and Gwen. I had to pause and think about how I would answer each question. Like you both said, when writing, I try to stay true to my character’s personalities as they react to different situations. These two posts have been most thought-provoking. Thank you both!
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I’m glad you appreciated the posts, Jan. It’s a complicated topic, and I learned a lot by participating in the two posts. 😊
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Thank you, Jan. Staying true to a character is the best way.
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Another great and enlightening post, Gwen. One of the hardest different from me gender characters to write about was the antagonist in my first novel. I wrote several scenes from his point of view, one of which was his blatant disregard for human life and his greed. I can’t remember the words I wrote, but it bothered me at the time because it was so unlike me. However, I needed to remain true to his character.
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Thank you, Joan. I’ve got a character in my WIP that sounds a bit like your character. It’s very troubling to encounter evil, in whatever form. Scary too!
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Thank you, Joan. If he was so different from you then he probably was a great character disregarding human life and greedy. Thanks for sharing.
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Wonderful post, questions, and answers 🙂 I think you both hit on creating an authentic voice to the characters in how you see it. If is it real to you it will be real to us whether it’s a CE0 or transgender person admired, and sticking to the emotions that are comfortable to write about makes all rhe difference to the reader.
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So true, Denise. If we’re comfortable with the emotions we describe and show, the reader will experience them as authentic. Thank you! 😊
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I like the idea of “sticking to the emotions that are comfortable to write.” And I would guess you re right about the reader liking that approach. Thanks so much for your comment.
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These ‘conversations’ have been illuminating and I’ve really enjoyed the questions you’ve been asking and answering. Your points about stereotypes is so fundamentally important. Then we have the gender neutral approach to emotions which is one I subscribe to. A character’s responses are partly formed by DNA, physical conditions and past experiences. We’re such complex beings and how we react to situations is dependent on so many different aspects of ourselves and our surroundings. As writers, we mould our characters and decide what makes them ‘tick’ and how they’re likey to react to a given set of circumstances. I suspect the reason that some ‘villains’ are popular is because the writer has balances them with positive attributes to make them ‘human’.
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Thank you very much, Trish. I couldn’t agree more. We’re amazingly complex, and we bring that richness into our character’s life. 😊
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Thank you for your comments, Trish. I think you have touched on the key to character writing. That is having them react naturally to the circumstances handed to them. 😁
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I tend not to think about gender when writing until I come to a romantic moment or a sex scene (which I try to avoid, to be honest, where possible) the character is simply the character. Often the women are tougher (mentally) than the men, which in my experience tends to be the case but it was once noted that mostly my central characters were male, which was true at the time. This was more down to laziness rather than anything else. Being male it was easy writing masculine characters. I had a lot to draw upon. I took this to heart; my last five books have had feminine central roles. lol- if you were wondering why I did not just say female two are about a moonchild (faerie creature) who is not strictly a woman.
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Thank you, Raymond, for joining this conversation. Romantic scenes are a challenge, and I’d rather stay away from them as well. But sometimes our characters take us into settings we’d rather not visit. All the best!
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Ray. I loved the idea of tough mental female characters. I have to agree with your assessment.
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What an interesting post, Gwen and John. I don’t tip-toe much around characters with awful personalities and attributes, but I don’t attribute those to only one gender. Your point about people of all sorts being capable of incredible goodness and evil is witnessed in our world every day. When I started writing, I was a member of a writers’ group, and it was incredibly helpful to have other-gendered people critiquing my work. I learned a lot as they challenged my characterizations. So much to think about. Thanks for the thought-starters.
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I like your expression, “thought starters.” This whole exercise, of looking at characters who are very different from me, has been a reflective process for me. I’ve learned a lot and I’m sure there’s much more to learn on this topic. Thank you so much for contributing to the conversation. 😊
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I think the main take away for me from the series is to beware of stereotyping and be thoughtful about honoring the wide range of human individuality. And be curious. 😀
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Wonderful take away! Thank you. 😊
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Thank you!
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Thank you for the lovely comments, Diana. A multi-gender critic group sounds like it would be very productive.
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It was eye-opening, and I never forgot their advice. Two of the writers were also veterans, and their feedback was extremely insightful.
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Another thought-provoking post and I enjoyed the reactions to it, too. I try to create characters that are real to me and separate from me, so that I think about how THEY’D react or think about different situations. We all have some of the same emotions, but what motivates them might be different.
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I think your approach is the one that produces the most honesty in a character Judi. Thanks.
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Excellent, Judi. Motivation plays a major part in the development of a character. Thank you!
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These two posts have been thought-provoking and illuminating. What a great series you’ve put together.
I try not to think of my characters in terms of different-than-me or the same-as-me. I create a character that’s right for the story I want to tell, then I make that character react to events in a way that’s organic and real. I know how I write a character is informed by my experiences. In some ways, that makes all my characters like me. But if I’ve done my job, they’re also different than me in order to be authentic. I don’t try to think “what would I do if…” and instead think “what would this character do if…” when I’m contemplating reactions. So, I’m sure some of me is in there, as I draw from what I know of pain or loss or love or whatever to write these responses. But I try to express those universal feelings in different ways that are suited to the character and not to how I personally would respond to something. Does that make sense?
Excellent work, Gwen and John.
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Love your answer. That’s how I think of characters, too. They become real, separate from me.
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You write characters well, Judi. They feel real to me.
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Thank you!
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It makes a lot of sense, Staci. I intuitively try to imagine a character’s thoughts and reactions, and of course, bits of me appear. This series was eye-opening for me and because of the journey, I find myself rethinking scenes and situations. Writing is such a massive learning process! Thank you for the insights and clarity. 😊
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I think you make a great deal of sense, Staci. If we write reactions that are true to the character it is pretty tough to go wrong. I suppose Gwen and I wanted to raise a canary in the mine awareness regarding gender. I’m getting the feeling that most writers take your approach which works well. Thanks for your excellent comment.
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You can never go wrong with raising awareness and encouraging careful thought. (Well, that’s shouldn’t be a misstep, anyway.) You both did an excellent job.
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Thank you, Staci.😁
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Great post, John and Gwen, with lots to think about. As well as discussing aspects of characters with people who identify as the gender I want to portray, I find reading books by authors in the relevant gender identification to be helpful as well. Thanks for sharing 💕🙂
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Wonderful point, Harmony, about reading authors of the relevant gender identification. Thank you! 😊
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Thank you, Harmony. A great suggestion. 😊
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There is a danger in most of the adventure genres called “men with boobs.” I try to make my female characters exhibit some female traits to avoid some of this. Might be more ready tears, or even grumbling about her long face in the mirror. So many stories these days have a female Rambo that never acts any different than the original.
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Thank you, Craig. It seems some writers take a shortcut and simply place a character attribute on a body without thinking of gender.
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I hadn’t heard that expression, Craig, but you are right on! Thank you for pointing this out and offering examples to back it up. 😊
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As with part one of this post, there is great food for thought here. I’m with both of you on trying to create sincere reactions to situations. I don’t shy away from a reaction because of the character’s gender, but there are situations I avoid writing so I don’t need to examine the reaction. Most of that has to do with graphic violence. It’s hard to write thriller/suspense novels without violence, but I strive to keep it to a minimum, and have examined reactions from both male and female perspectives. One of my books involved a creature attacking people and it was necessary to show the fear and reaction from both sexes. I didn’t stop to consider which gender I was writing from—I just wrote the reaction of the character in the the situation. It’s interesting to think back on those scenes now after reading this post!
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I would be interested in what you think of your works in light of a discussion about gender. I suspect, since you are such a good writer, that your character orientation works just fine. Thanks, Mae.
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Thank you, John. 🙂
Looking back on those scenes (two written from a female perspective and two from male perspective), I wouldn’t change anything about them!
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YAY. I expected as much. Thanks, Mae.
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Thank you, Mae. Writing this series has been eye-opening for me and like you, I’ve thought back to my books. BTW, your characters are so authentic that they come alive on the page. 😊
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Aww, thank you, Gwen!
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So much food for thought in this post. This has been a fascinating series. Both of you did a great job!
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Thank you, Jill. I’m glad you found the two posts thought-provoking. 😁
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Thank you, Jill. It’s been an interesting journey, and I’ve learned a lot through the process. 😊
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I like John’s comment about “capturing attributes that are honest to the character’s makeup.” I try to do that across the board, but this is where I most need help with female characters. The character’s makeup is yours to create. I turn to different people for advice, and I turn to different memories for role models. I also read lots of information like this great series to help me think of things I might not realize. Thanks to both of you for sharing your insights.
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Thank you for the lovely thoughts, Dan. It does take a lot of sources to get characters right. I think you do a great job in your books.
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Thanks John.
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Thank you, Dan. Your approach is much like mine. I’m enjoying The Evil You Choose, and your characters are well-developed. 😊
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Thanks so much for saying so, Gwen. I’m glad you’re enjoying the book. I’m fortunate to have had some strong women in my life.
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