Hi, SEers! Mae here to talk about cooking and writing. At first glance these two things may seem to have little in common, but after applying some thought, I began to recognize a pattern. The again, it may have nothing to do with the practice itself, and everything thing to do with the cook/author.
I’m not a great cook. I get by and have a few dishes that I prepare very well. I am also a sloppy cook. When I’m working in the kitchen, it’s a fallout zone of cutting boards, pots, pans, measuring cups, and food items. Alexa is usually streaming my favorite music in the background and my cat and husband steer clear. I measure “close enough” and am not above improvising if I don’t have a certain ingredient or think the recipe would be better without. This is why I will never be a good baker. Baking is a science, but cooking allows room for experimentation.
Now, let’s hop over to writing. I’ve recently made a vow to become better at plotting my novels. Even with that, I don’t think I’ll ever outgrow my beloved Scribble Book. My normal practice of writing is to make story notes on my computer and write research notes longhand in a spiral bound tablet. Someday, I may learn to do all of that in Scrivener, but until then, my patchwork pot-and-pan system works for me.
My Scribble Book is a fallout zone and catch-all for anything that didn’t make it onto the computer or into the tablet. It keeps me up to date with developing plots and character references in my story. Things get cut, other ingredients get tossed in. I track timelines, days of the week, chapter starts and even directions.
Yes, I get sloppy. Things get crossed out, switched around and deleted altogether, but my Scribble Book helps me corral stray thoughts and ensures I end with a concise story. As with cooking, it’s not how you get there, but the result that counts.
Do you scribble when you write, or do you have something else that helps you sort minor details? Do you track timelines and chapter start/stops? We all work a little differently but it’s fun to share. I’m on vacation this week but my SE co-authors are stepping in to reply to comments. We’d love to hear your thoughts. 🙂
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Well, not just shoppers and empaths Mae, but it seems we have similar cooking habits, we both suck at baking and my notebooks work similar to yours with lots of chicken scratch. arrows and crossouts. Nice to know we are not alone. 🙂
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Yay! that’s a lot of things in common. Glad to know I’m not as bizarre as I somethings think, LOL. Great minds thinking alike and all that 🙂
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Oh ya! 🙂
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I just wanted to send out a huge thanks to my wonderful SE co-bloggers who stepped up and fielded comments while I was away on vacation. You’re the best! 🙂
I’m back now, and trying to catch-up, though it will likely take a while. Thanks also, to everyone who dropped by to comment on this post. I loved hearing all the different ways everyone works as authors. Whether you make a mess or are neat and organized, the best system is the one that works for you.
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Reblogged this on Archer's Aim and commented:
I keep all my notes and such in Scrivener where I can find it fast. But there is more than one way to write a book. Read how Mae Clair organizes her work in her post on Story Empire.
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Many thanks for the reblog, P.H!
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You’re welcome.
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Great comparison between cooking and writing. Sounds like we may be very similar in the kitchen. I make my mark when I cook…lol I’m a huge notetaker, I’m working my way up to getting it in the same place or a notebook!
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I have notes here and there. Thinking about taking another writers advice and starting a notebook or each new novel.
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Heeheeheee 🙂
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LOL! I always had notes scattered everywhere too, Denise (much like the pots and pans when I cook). Now I have a notebook for each novel I work on. It goes with me pretty much everywhere, so whenever inspiration strikes, I can jot it down!
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I have yet to dive into the world of Scrivener even though I hear wonderful things about it. I love your notes, Mae. And while they may look like gibberish to anyone else, you know exactly what they mean. I too am an improviser when it comes to cooking. I hardly ever measure anything. Writing is much the same, except that I always know where I’m headed. The recipe for getting there may change a few times along the way, but I always arrive. 🙂 Thanks for sharing.
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Jan, I love Scrivener. I’ve used it a few years now and although there is a learning curve, I can’t see myself not using it. As far as cooking, “when” I cook, I rarely measure things. With writing, I have a general idea where I’m headed, but I let the story take on a life of its own.
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You’re right about that gibberish. I can actually make sense of it, LOL.
I like the way you look at writing (and cooking), Jan 🙂
Reaching the final result is what it’s about, even if there are multiple detours along the way!
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I’m a huge OneNote fan. I have folders for each book and then files inside there for research, background info, excerpts, blurbs, and timelines. It works especially well for series books.
As for cooking, I owned a restaurant so I learned to clean as I made my messes, lol.
Hope you’re enjoying your vacation, Mae!
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Sounds like a well organized process, Jacquie.
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Wow, you owned a restaurant, Jacquie? That’s awesome!
And it sounds like you are highly organized when it comes to writing, I admit I have never used One Note, but it seems a handy way to do things!
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I jot notes down on pad of paper, Mae. I am a bit untidy about it but I can usually find them when I want them. I have discovered that for a longer book I do a basic outline of the story. As I write new ideas come and it veers off a bit but I seem to be sticking to my basic outline.
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Sounds a lot like my style. Mine are more storyboards than formal outlines, but serve the same purpose. I let the stories drift as I write them too.
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Hope you have a great vacation, Mae!
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I’ve tried a lot of things, but most of my mess is electronic these days. My notes app, leads to a storyboard app, leads to a cast of characters, and ultimately a manuscript. Keeps my work area tidy, but for a cup of coffee and my phone. (And any bulldog help I might need.)
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Reblogged this on Author Don Massenzio and commented:
Check out this great post from Mae Clair for the Story Empire blog with the topic: Cooking, Writing, Scribbling – it’s all good
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Thanks for sharing, Don.
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Thank you, Don.
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You’re welcome.
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Great blog idea. Nuts! Why didn’t I think of this? 🙂
I am organized on a sick level. I am pointing to the heavens and blaming Grandma. We’re going to have a long talk, Grandma!!!
As with my writing everything has to be in order. Things have to be laid out properly. No messes to be seen. Pens in order. Spatulas, pots and pans in their proper place. Yes, it’s a sick adventure. I wish I could be you. It looks like a lot more fun.
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It’s not just you, Bryan. I’m super organized when I cook. And when I write. It might not be as “fun” or freeing, but it usually yields good results and results in less work.
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Happy to see I’m not alone. 🙂
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Nope. I’m right there with you. 🙂
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I’m like this too, Bryan 😀
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Bryan, I think it must also be a calming adventure. Trust me, there are times I WANT to be that structured and organized. Completing my last novel by deadline nearly did me in and I swore I’d become more organized moving ahead. I don’t think it’s ever going to happen in the kitchen, but I intend to make a go of it with outlining and plotting for writing. Pens in place, too 😀
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In the end we are who we are. Must not fight it. 🙂
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Sounds like you cook like I do, Mae! I figure, if I don’t make a mess, I’m not doing it right 🙂 I use a couple different methods when plotting-ish (more plot than pants, but sometimes pantsing works). I’ve learned writing notes (brief scene notes) in a notebook is useful in working through plotlines, and I like to do a sort-of timeline as well by hand. I use a mockup of Karen Wiesner’s “First Draft in 30 Days” workbook I cobbled together in OneNote, which helps when I create characters and collect research. But as Harmony said, whatever works! I’m finding that what used to work well for me isn’t necessarily what works now. I think we try things out and refine them as we go. Hope you have a great vaca!
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I have Karen Wiesner’s book, too, Julie. Some of her ideas were really helpful to me. Others, not as much. (Some of her elements have too many days assigned to them, IMHO.) I do think our methods will change as we evolve as writers. We get better and can skip steps or refine things. To echo you and Harmony: whatever works.
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Agreed–those ‘why so many days’ sheets I don’t use at all. I like the character sketch ones and the summary ones best, I think. I’ve short-cutted (yes, made that one up 😀 ) those ‘way too many days’ sheets into handwritten short paragraphs in a notebook to get a feel for the timing.
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That’s pretty much what I had done, too. 🙂
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I’ve changed over time too. Most of my mess is electronic, so my work area looks pretty fair. There is an app for my storyboard, a page for my cast of characters with a bit of description, and my manuscript. On occasion there is a scene where a lot has to happen, so I’ll make some notes on actual paper for that day of writing.
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I find myself going back to pen and paper a lot for note taking or research. I think when I have to hand write things out they stick with me more and leave a lasting impression.
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Many people are kinesthetic like that. I can’t remember under the best of circumstances, so I rely upon what I write more than the act of writing it out.
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I do agree we tend to refine as we go, Julie. I think I’m to the point now where I actually have a system, although it may be a chaotic system. The scribble tablet I keep by my desk has been a Godsend in tracking timelines and odd little quibbles I toss in as I write. Important references that will be reoccurring (i.e. the color and make of a car someone drives, the name of a street or cafe, etc), go in the notebook or folder I have for each book. It would probably make better sense to keep it altogether, but well….I haven’t mastered that skill set yet, LOL.
I’m not familiar with Karen Wiesner’s book, but I may have to look that one up. It could defiantly prove helpful in moving ahead. I like anything with worksheets. 🙂
And thanks–vacation was great!
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I think I write like I cook after reading this. Organized, planned out, and trying not to make a mess. Tend to go running around asking everyone how the food was, which is like begging for reviews too.
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Funny you make that correlation about neatness when cooking. I clean as I cook so there isn’t a lot to do after a meal. And I edit as I write, so there isn’t a lot to do when I complete my draft. Interesting.
Love what you said about begging for reviews.
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I do cleaning when I’m at a waiting stage like preheating or boiling water. I try to do a little editing when writing too. Haven’t figured out a trick other than reducing my speed.
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I clean while I oook, too, and edit as I write. Messes are too much work all at once for me. Mine might be a lazy thing:)
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That is interesting, Staci. The same mindset for both. I do admit to cleaning up a degree as I cook, and I definitely edit as I write. I guess I have no problem creating a mess, but don’t like to leave it laying about too long 🙂
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I hear you, Charles. I edit as I write, too. It does slow down the word production, but there is far less clean-up the end!
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That’s funny. You Staci and I seem to handle both tasks in the same way. I’ll wash bowls while sourdough is rising, and I always do a minor editing pass over my previous chapter before I start writing.
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I never really go back when writing unless I sense that I’m forgetting something. Any wiggle of doubt in my head sends me to research, which I hope has served me well. Now, I want sourdough pretzels. 😛
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Better add that to your shopping list. It depends on my story. When I worked with a timeline on Will O’ the Wisp, I did a lot of back and forth to make sure specific thing happened on the right day of the week. I’d do research, like on Patty’s bus ride where everyone was talking about the World Series. Then a couple of days later, I’d have to search back to find out it would now be wednesday for the week I was writing. Things like that.
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With Legends of Windemere, I began making detail notes between books. This helped me carry over location, character, and monster descriptions of those that appeared more than once. My goal was always to maintain tight continuity, which gets harder with every volume of a long series.
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I definitely go back and edit what I wrote before. Each section probably gets 8-10 passes and edits before it even goes to my critique partners!
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Mine is in steps. On writing day, I always go over the previous chapter before I start. Later on, I’ll make all those passes before sending something to readers.
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Haha! I love the comparison between asking how the food was and begging for reviews. It’s far easier to get a response from the first one though!
It sounds like you have writing well in hand, Charles!
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True. You can get a sense from non-word noises and body language with food too.
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Enjoy your vacation. I love the post. I carry a note pad with me to scribble. I even keep one on my nightstand.
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I always have a notebook with me, too. But I’ve taken to using the Notes app on my phone to jot down ideas. Groggy typing is still more legible than groggy and blind scribbles. 😉
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I use my notes app a lot for that. I like the idea that if I put something on my phone, I can find it on my iPad later.
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I do the same, Gracie. You just never know when inspiration will strike. Usually, in the middle of the night, LOL!
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I enjoy the feel of writing it out, so I use a journal. I use a page per character to flush out everything I know about my character, and then I add to it as I discover more about him/her. This is especially helpful when I’m writing a series. I then create a timeline of important events to make sure I keep on track as I’m adding in my plot and subplots. I sometimes will draw out a location if I know I’ll be describing it (though, my art skills are worse than my cooking skils…lol!) And then I roughly create my chapters through dialogue. My characters’ dialogue has always driven me, and so far, it’s worked for me, so I go with it. Lol! 🙂
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I love that you use dialogue as a tool for creation. I love character-driven fiction, so that’s a compelling method to me.
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My characters are usually pretty much bones when I start. They flesh out when I start writing them and learn more about their personality. I find it so interesting to see how everyone else does these things.
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Me too. I often glean ideas from these sorts of posts and leave with new practices to try.
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I’m the same way. The group blog seems to bring out more of that too.
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I like that you sometimes draw out your settings, Yvette. Often, I’ll search online for settings I have in mind (even home interiors), and when I find something close, I’ll save it in a folder on my PC as inspiration. That part is kind of fun too.
I also like that you mentioned using dialogue to create your chapters. When I’m up against a deadline, I let dialogue drive the scenes, then go back later and flesh out with setting, detail and action. Isn’t it wonderful when you find something that really works for you? Happy writing!
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It truly is! 🙂
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i love the scribble book idea
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I brainstorm that way, but I couldn’t plot my novel like that. I need organization when I start the “writing” part of the book-writing process. It’s interesting to me how everyone does things, though.
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Me, too, Staci. Although my scribble book is just to keep track of things as I write. Timelines especially, and then minor details that might crop up again later (i.e, the Arch Street Cafe is on the east end of town, Dante’s SUV is black, etc.). May actual plotting (loose as it is) and notes go in a separate notebook, with a folder in Word, too. See? Scattered all over the place, LOL!
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Thanks! I couldn’t be without it when I write 🙂
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I don’t have a set method. I’ve scribbled notes on my phone, in Scrivener, brainstormed on paper and in a Word document. Read a blog post a few months ago from an author that keeps a notebook for each of his novels. He jots ideas, brainstorms, etc. by longhand. Says it helps him get over “writer’s block.” Thought I’d give it a try when I start my next one. I too have vowed to do more of an outline next time!
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Wow. A whole notebook for each novel? Think of all the extra material he must have for marketing afterward.
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It sounds like a great idea. Said he had done it with every novel.
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Incredible.
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Exactly! That’s how I was able to produce so many blog posts for Cusp of Night and the Mothman series. I’ve got notebooks filled with research for each novel, as well as all my character and story notes.
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That actually sounds like what Mae does, Joan. She posted about it a couple years ago on her blog 🙂
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Wow! Julie, thank you so much for remembering! You’re right–that is exactly what I do, and it’s worked out really well for me. It’s how I was able to produce so many blog posts for Cusp of Night when it released.
In my reply to Joan I also mentioned that I break my notebooks down into a system—the front of each page is for research (odd numbers 1, 3, 5, etc) and the back of each page is for story development and character notes (2,4,6 etc). Whatever works, Right?
Thanks so much again for remembering. I’m honored!
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I think Charles is a great keeper of notebooks. I don’t have any hard rules, but settled into what seems to work for me. Notes on my phone, then a storyboard, when I feel the storyboard is ready I open a manuscript and cast of characters and start writing.
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That’s exactly what I do. A notebook for each novel. There’s also something about writing all those notes and research out longhand that helps them lodge in my head better.
I also break my notebooks down into a system—the front of each page is for research (odd numbers 1, 3, 5, etc) and the back of each page is for story development and character notes (2,4,6 etc).
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This all seems very familiar and looks very much like the chaos I create when trying to marshall my brain into coherence!
It seems to work, but sometimes wonder if being a tad neater would be better!
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I’m a firm believer in whatever works! 🙂
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Yes, I’m a fan of that too!
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Well said, Harmony!
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LOL! I hear you 🙂
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Thanks for the reblog, Jane and Anita! 🙂
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Appreciate the reblog.
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Thanks so much for reblogging!
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I’m like you in that I improvise, Mae. However, I’m a tad neater, lmao! I use the card index to the right of each page to make character and chapter notes that I can see at a glance while writing. Sometimes, that means having to go back to another chapter to see that note, lol. So, a work in progress … if you’ll pardon the pun! Happy cooking, scribbling, writing, and vacationing, Mae! 🙂
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I’m anything but organized, Harmony! I’ve toyed with the idea of index cards but never used them.
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It sounds like you’ve got a great system, Harmony. And a neater one, too:)
Thanks so much for sharing the post. Vacation was great. Now it’s time to get back to writing, scribbling, and even cooking. Notice which one took priority 😉
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